1 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:13,430 [Music] 2 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:16,150 we live in a reality of phantoms and 3 00:00:20,710 --> 00:00:17,680 monsters 4 00:00:21,990 --> 00:00:20,720 they exist among us and sometimes they 5 00:00:25,269 --> 00:00:22,000 win 6 00:00:28,230 --> 00:00:25,279 even the devil was an angel once 7 00:00:30,790 --> 00:00:28,240 the world has its own rules and these 8 00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:30,800 rules are not human 9 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:33,680 some of us seek answers to the origin 10 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:35,920 and existence of cryptids in the 11 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:37,920 unexplained 12 00:00:43,590 --> 00:00:41,280 join us as we venture beyond the known 13 00:00:45,750 --> 00:00:43,600 and accepted boundaries 14 00:00:51,870 --> 00:00:45,760 welcome to our nightmare 15 00:01:02,549 --> 00:01:01,029 [Music] 16 00:01:04,229 --> 00:01:02,559 folks good evening and welcome to 17 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,239 phantoms of monsters radio where we 18 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:06,720 explore the unexplained live on youtube 19 00:01:11,429 --> 00:01:09,200 i'm your host lon stricter coming to you 20 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:11,439 within a cannon shot of the howl fields 21 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:13,760 of gettysburg pennsylvania thanks for 22 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:15,200 joining us now 23 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:17,119 phantoms of monsters radio channel was 24 00:01:21,350 --> 00:01:19,360 made possible by you liking subscribing 25 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:21,360 and sharing our programming 26 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:23,600 and uh super chat donations are 27 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:26,240 essential for us to continue offering 28 00:01:30,390 --> 00:01:28,080 your unique content so your 29 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:30,400 consideration is very much needed and 30 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:31,840 appreciated 31 00:01:37,670 --> 00:01:33,840 now tonight we kind of got a uh 32 00:01:40,950 --> 00:01:37,680 impromptu get together uh 33 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:40,960 my original guests caught covet and the 34 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:43,439 whole family's down so we had to 35 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,280 restructure things 36 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:47,360 so i got some team members coming on 37 00:01:51,429 --> 00:01:49,520 tonight and hopefully we can have an 38 00:01:54,149 --> 00:01:51,439 interesting discussion and talk about a 39 00:01:56,310 --> 00:01:54,159 few cases and look if you've got a 40 00:01:58,630 --> 00:01:56,320 question in the chat room feel free to 41 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:58,640 to uh put it in caps 42 00:02:04,789 --> 00:02:00,880 and uh we'll see if we can answer it now 43 00:02:08,550 --> 00:02:04,799 joining me tonight is emmanuel navarette 44 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:08,560 tommy carroll and vincent richardson so 45 00:02:12,949 --> 00:02:11,440 guys thanks for coming on tonight 46 00:02:15,030 --> 00:02:12,959 thanks for having us love it's my 47 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:15,040 pleasure 48 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,360 so uh yeah before we get started you 49 00:02:21,990 --> 00:02:19,280 know manuel was talking about now 50 00:02:22,790 --> 00:02:22,000 emmanuel and tobias were on with me last 51 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:22,800 week 52 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:26,160 talking about chicago sightings and um 53 00:02:30,550 --> 00:02:28,480 apparently manuel found about found out 54 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:30,560 about some trespassers 55 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:33,120 out of the hair uh i guess this week so 56 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:34,480 manny why don't you tell us a bit about 57 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:35,760 that 58 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:38,720 yeah well i'm was uh 59 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:40,319 i have a lot of friends who still work 60 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:41,840 at the airport and i just you know i 61 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:44,000 work in cargo with a 62 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,400 transportation company so 63 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:48,239 uh they were telling me one of them was 64 00:02:51,509 --> 00:02:50,080 telling me about an incident where they 65 00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:51,519 had some 66 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:53,280 fear or group of teenagers out there you 67 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:54,000 know 68 00:02:56,869 --> 00:02:55,920 paranormal investigating 69 00:03:00,630 --> 00:02:56,879 um 70 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:00,640 somehow found a way to get on to the 71 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:03,760 property and why by when you hear us 72 00:03:08,949 --> 00:03:05,840 talk about other side of the fence 73 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:08,959 there's a huge like 12 foot fence that 74 00:03:11,030 --> 00:03:10,239 surrounds 75 00:03:13,589 --> 00:03:11,040 um 76 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:13,599 o'hare airport and we're talking like 77 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,640 you know 78 00:03:19,350 --> 00:03:16,480 razor wire and everything 79 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:19,360 um on the other side is federal property 80 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:20,159 so 81 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:24,159 their themselves uh 82 00:03:28,309 --> 00:03:26,480 on the other side of the fence and 83 00:03:30,390 --> 00:03:28,319 we're out there taking pictures and 84 00:03:32,710 --> 00:03:30,400 doing an investigation but 85 00:03:33,830 --> 00:03:32,720 we're about 150 yards from an active 86 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:33,840 runway 87 00:03:37,110 --> 00:03:36,080 when they were found out by maintenance 88 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:37,120 people 89 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:38,080 um 90 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,440 and that 91 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:41,760 really led to a lot of uh 92 00:03:46,229 --> 00:03:44,000 a pretty bad situation for them because 93 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,239 they were quickly surrounded by security 94 00:03:49,830 --> 00:03:48,799 they were quickly surrounded by tsa 95 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:49,840 um 96 00:03:52,869 --> 00:03:51,120 and they were 97 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:52,879 luckily did not get arrested but they 98 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:56,799 were told you know that you are now 99 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:58,080 banned from this property if you're 100 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:00,400 caught again you know near it 101 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,120 you will go get arrested so 102 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,519 not a good thing um 103 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:07,360 we always preach about you always hear 104 00:04:11,270 --> 00:04:08,720 us talk about 105 00:04:13,429 --> 00:04:11,280 you know researching responsibly 106 00:04:15,670 --> 00:04:13,439 that means you know staying on the right 107 00:04:18,229 --> 00:04:15,680 side of the fence um 108 00:04:21,030 --> 00:04:18,239 of an international airport 109 00:04:23,909 --> 00:04:21,040 these people don't play games um 110 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:23,919 it's a security risk and it's not worth 111 00:04:28,950 --> 00:04:26,639 it i mean you're you're looking at a lot 112 00:04:30,950 --> 00:04:28,960 of legal troubles if you get caught 113 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:30,960 um 114 00:04:33,350 --> 00:04:32,560 least of which would probably be getting 115 00:04:34,710 --> 00:04:33,360 shot 116 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,720 by the police 117 00:04:38,150 --> 00:04:35,840 but uh 118 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:38,160 it was an interesting story and it was 119 00:04:40,550 --> 00:04:39,440 just um 120 00:04:43,189 --> 00:04:40,560 just 121 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:43,199 some of the um things that sometimes we 122 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:45,360 have to deal with especially when you're 123 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,240 uh 124 00:04:49,110 --> 00:04:48,479 you have so many people now coming onto 125 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:49,120 it 126 00:04:53,189 --> 00:04:51,440 to uh the airport um 127 00:04:54,550 --> 00:04:53,199 i know during the summer when i would go 128 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:54,560 out there and do investigations i would 129 00:04:57,510 --> 00:04:56,639 usually live stream it to the team 130 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:57,520 and 131 00:05:01,270 --> 00:04:58,960 there would be all sorts of people out 132 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:01,280 there you know you'd meet all sorts of 133 00:05:05,189 --> 00:05:03,600 other investigators but at the same time 134 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:05,199 you also started seeing an increase in 135 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:07,120 security 136 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,039 these people do not play games when it 137 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:11,440 comes to protecting their airport 138 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:12,320 um 139 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:13,759 if you're gonna do it please be 140 00:05:18,629 --> 00:05:16,400 responsible about it you know 141 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:18,639 there are places you can that they'll 142 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:20,880 still be cool if you're cool 143 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:23,039 about sitting there and you know taking 144 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:24,720 pictures and video 145 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:25,600 um 146 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:31,350 well you know 147 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,639 you were mentioned earlier about 148 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:34,479 somebody was out there with some drones 149 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:36,560 too and that's definitely a new though 150 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:38,400 oh yeah over the summer they were flying 151 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:40,720 drones over the fence and 152 00:05:46,390 --> 00:05:44,000 that prompted an immediate response so 153 00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:46,400 well they're not playing i mean you know 154 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:48,240 they're um 155 00:05:52,390 --> 00:05:50,560 they really step things up and i imagine 156 00:05:54,550 --> 00:05:52,400 you know i've been hearing 157 00:05:55,590 --> 00:05:54,560 about this people trying to go out there 158 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:55,600 and and 159 00:05:59,430 --> 00:05:57,520 find out what we've been getting reports 160 00:06:01,110 --> 00:05:59,440 of and uh 161 00:06:02,710 --> 00:06:01,120 i mean i don't i don't know if anybody's 162 00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:02,720 been locked up but i know they've been 163 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:04,479 escorting them out of the airport and 164 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:10,710 so uh we do have a question uh from 165 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:12,160 james west he wants to know if there's 166 00:06:17,590 --> 00:06:14,960 any dogman sightings of new dogman sites 167 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:17,600 in pennsylvania and unfortunately uh 168 00:06:21,270 --> 00:06:19,039 nothing new 169 00:06:24,309 --> 00:06:21,280 uh we're working i'm working on a few 170 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,319 right now i've got some up in um 171 00:06:29,990 --> 00:06:26,400 up in northeast pennsylvania up near 172 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:30,000 pottsville um but other than that 173 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:32,000 uh we haven't heard anything else i 174 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:35,280 think if we do we you know we will and 175 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,960 i'll be a sonic at the people on the 176 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,000 team 177 00:06:42,070 --> 00:06:40,240 to go into it so 178 00:06:45,110 --> 00:06:42,080 there you go tommy you get one out your 179 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:45,120 way you're going to be looking into that 180 00:06:49,029 --> 00:06:46,639 good to me because i've got nothing out 181 00:06:52,309 --> 00:06:49,039 here right now 182 00:06:54,870 --> 00:06:52,319 oh and tommy lives out in um somerset 183 00:06:58,070 --> 00:06:54,880 county so he's not too far from 184 00:07:00,390 --> 00:06:58,080 greene county so uh 185 00:07:03,029 --> 00:07:00,400 you might you might have to meet james 186 00:07:04,469 --> 00:07:03,039 because james had two encounters out in 187 00:07:09,189 --> 00:07:04,479 greene county 188 00:07:11,670 --> 00:07:09,199 where we're waiting for the um 189 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:11,680 uh the witness to get back to us but 190 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:14,560 that was a bigfoot encounter on the guys 191 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:17,199 property and i think there's some also 192 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,080 some 193 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:19,919 paranormal activity going on at the 194 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:22,960 house as well and on the property so 195 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:24,960 i i guess when they get back to you 196 00:07:29,029 --> 00:07:27,840 you'll look into that then 197 00:07:30,790 --> 00:07:29,039 yeah because it sounds really 198 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:30,800 interesting there's yeah it's an old 199 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:34,880 house it's built in the 1700s 200 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:36,000 yeah well 201 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:38,160 hopefully we get some uh 202 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:39,919 you know you and bernadette can look 203 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:42,800 into that and see what's going on there 204 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:45,840 uh yeah james said yeah you 205 00:07:50,309 --> 00:07:48,080 i'll give you james contact you and him 206 00:07:52,469 --> 00:07:50,319 can look out together if you want to 207 00:07:54,629 --> 00:07:52,479 and i might ask james even what's come 208 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:54,639 on the team be honest with you he's 209 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:56,319 pretty you know he's out there in greene 210 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:58,000 county and that's a nutty place out 211 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,800 there 212 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:00,240 you know i've had a lot of weird 213 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:03,280 settings out there over the years 214 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:05,599 but we had a we had an encounter out 215 00:08:08,950 --> 00:08:06,800 there 216 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:08,960 that was in 217 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:10,960 rosemary's book 218 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:12,960 with the the witness called the dark 219 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,160 walker 220 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,840 and i don't know what the hell that was 221 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:17,039 it could have been a bigfoot it could 222 00:08:20,550 --> 00:08:18,800 have been it could have been an upright 223 00:08:22,869 --> 00:08:20,560 cane i don't know 224 00:08:24,469 --> 00:08:22,879 but apparently whatever it was it was 225 00:08:27,830 --> 00:08:24,479 shot and killed 226 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:27,840 and um you know that's all that's all i 227 00:08:31,430 --> 00:08:29,520 have beyond that other than what the 228 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:31,440 witness told me 229 00:08:36,310 --> 00:08:34,479 but um yep so i don't know so anybody 230 00:08:38,310 --> 00:08:36,320 else got any questions in the chat room 231 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:38,320 feel free to um 232 00:08:43,029 --> 00:08:40,959 feel free to come forward and and you 233 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:43,039 know post it up there and ask us we'll 234 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:45,120 see what we can do like i said this is 235 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:47,040 kind of impromptu tonight we were 236 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:49,600 weren't really ready for any of this 237 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:52,560 um i i can say we've been looking into a 238 00:08:56,310 --> 00:08:54,560 few invest a few paranormal 239 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:56,320 investigations 240 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:58,959 uh tommy bernadette and jennifer were 241 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:01,680 with me at one here in my hometown 242 00:09:06,310 --> 00:09:02,560 uh 243 00:09:07,910 --> 00:09:06,320 in hanover pennsylvania we had a 244 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:07,920 and i don't know what to make of that 245 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,680 tommy um 246 00:09:15,269 --> 00:09:11,440 that was kind of crazy 247 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:15,279 but uh this this person had contacted me 248 00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:17,839 about two or three years ago 249 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:19,760 and 250 00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:21,839 you know apparently 251 00:09:24,630 --> 00:09:23,680 there's something going on in the house 252 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:24,640 but 253 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,880 who knows i mean i you know 254 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,880 i didn't get much of a sense of anything 255 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,440 going on there though i know bernadette 256 00:09:36,550 --> 00:09:33,920 and jennifer were picking up stuff 257 00:09:39,829 --> 00:09:36,560 and uh so i don't know what was going on 258 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:39,839 there and then of course we had the uh 259 00:09:44,389 --> 00:09:41,760 and jennifer took care of this we had a 260 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:44,399 case down charleston west virginia 261 00:09:46,949 --> 00:09:45,360 and 262 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:46,959 she pretty well took care of that she 263 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:50,320 was down there for two days and um 264 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:54,800 uh assessed what was going on so 265 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:56,560 you know we do get things done around 266 00:10:01,110 --> 00:09:58,959 here uh when you know when we can get 267 00:10:02,069 --> 00:10:01,120 when we get out to the cases 268 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:02,079 so 269 00:10:09,829 --> 00:10:07,040 the problem you know when you do this 270 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:11,910 you always run the risk of 271 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:13,680 you know you're getting ready to do this 272 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:16,480 and the you're making contact and then 273 00:10:23,350 --> 00:10:19,760 you know the witness ever comes back and 274 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:23,360 it gets to be frustrating so um 275 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:26,160 that is part of it yeah yeah uh james 276 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:27,680 just came back and said i talked to 277 00:10:32,710 --> 00:10:30,079 kevin paul he was the co-author of that 278 00:10:34,630 --> 00:10:32,720 book with rosemary rosemary he seems to 279 00:10:36,550 --> 00:10:34,640 think that the dark walker was a bigfoot 280 00:10:39,269 --> 00:10:36,560 well i very well could have been 281 00:10:40,550 --> 00:10:39,279 yeah i i wasn't sure what it was um the 282 00:10:44,829 --> 00:10:40,560 witness thought it might have been a 283 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:46,870 yeah ah 284 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:49,519 okay so 285 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:50,399 so 286 00:10:57,750 --> 00:10:56,230 defensive you got anything 287 00:11:03,269 --> 00:10:57,760 uh 288 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:03,279 wondering if you might want to 289 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:05,279 talk about the new book that's coming 290 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:08,320 out here on the horizon oh yeah 291 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:10,880 yeah i got a new book coming out uh 292 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:13,680 probably this coming week it's titled 293 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:16,800 the mean humanoids modern myths or 294 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:20,160 real monsters and it's about this um 295 00:11:25,590 --> 00:11:22,880 for the most part this this pale crawler 296 00:11:26,790 --> 00:11:25,600 humanoid phenomena that's been 297 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:26,800 kind of 298 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:29,120 raising it's rearing its ugly head the 299 00:11:33,190 --> 00:11:31,200 last several years 300 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:33,200 uh and i will say vincent did all the 301 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:36,000 artwork or most the artwork in the book 302 00:11:41,030 --> 00:11:39,120 and the cover we we looked at the cover 303 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:41,040 a couple weeks ago and i was very 304 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:43,519 satisfied with it i was very happy with 305 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:46,160 it too yeah and you know hopefully the 306 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:48,720 book's going to do well so um 307 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:50,399 you know when that does come out we'll 308 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:52,959 we'll have more on that but it should be 309 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:53,839 it 310 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:55,600 you know you there's not really a whole 311 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:58,240 lot out there about this phenomena yet 312 00:12:01,750 --> 00:11:59,920 um 313 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,760 you know i've been lucky enough to get 314 00:12:05,750 --> 00:12:03,200 witness 315 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:05,760 accounts coming into me 316 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:08,160 and have looked into a few of those and 317 00:12:13,269 --> 00:12:11,120 uh you know we really don't know what 318 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:13,279 these things are 319 00:12:18,629 --> 00:12:16,160 uh you know i and i titled meme humanoid 320 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:18,639 for the simple fact that you know if you 321 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:20,720 start looking at 322 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:24,000 the the humanoid meme humanoids 323 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:26,480 on the internet and people talking about 324 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:29,440 just like slenderman and that um 325 00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:30,399 you know 326 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:32,160 there are people who actually believe 327 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:34,720 that they are encountering this 328 00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:36,480 this creature 329 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:38,399 that was developed by someone on the 330 00:12:41,990 --> 00:12:40,079 internet 331 00:12:43,509 --> 00:12:42,000 yeah they just had a case not too far 332 00:12:45,190 --> 00:12:43,519 away from here where 333 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:45,200 uh three girl or two girls trying to 334 00:12:49,829 --> 00:12:47,600 kill a third girl sure sacrifice them to 335 00:12:50,790 --> 00:12:49,839 slenderman and i was up in waukesha i 336 00:12:53,829 --> 00:12:50,800 wanted 337 00:12:56,470 --> 00:12:53,839 yeah yeah um yeah and those girls did 338 00:12:58,629 --> 00:12:56,480 time i think they're both out now 339 00:13:01,350 --> 00:12:58,639 but they uh yeah they went after their 340 00:13:03,430 --> 00:13:01,360 friend because they said the slender man 341 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:03,440 told them to kill her 342 00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:05,440 and you know that kind of put the 343 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:09,760 slenderman phenomena on the map and um 344 00:13:13,269 --> 00:13:10,800 but 345 00:13:15,269 --> 00:13:13,279 there have been other cases where people 346 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:15,279 have swore that they've seen this thing 347 00:13:20,389 --> 00:13:18,000 and you know i've received cases or 348 00:13:22,310 --> 00:13:20,399 people contacting me saying they've seen 349 00:13:25,750 --> 00:13:22,320 something very similar 350 00:13:27,430 --> 00:13:25,760 so uh of course we've got other 351 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:27,440 strange sightings especially out in 352 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:30,320 sierra nevadas which i call penelope or 353 00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:32,880 what they call penelope and that's uh 354 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:34,959 that's in the book as well 355 00:13:38,949 --> 00:13:37,839 and uh i mean i even go as far back as 356 00:13:45,829 --> 00:13:38,959 the um 357 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:45,839 and the fresno nightcrawlers as well in 358 00:13:51,350 --> 00:13:48,639 this book so who knows absolutely what 359 00:13:53,430 --> 00:13:51,360 all this was uh and what it is 360 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:53,440 i mean are we are we seeing something 361 00:13:56,470 --> 00:13:55,680 that's a thought form or a tope of some 362 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:56,480 type 363 00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:58,880 are we actually singing the nexus of 364 00:14:04,230 --> 00:14:00,800 some type of 365 00:14:06,949 --> 00:14:04,240 humanoid being or possibly something 366 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:06,959 similar to a human 367 00:14:10,870 --> 00:14:09,040 and where would it be coming from is it 368 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:10,880 something ultraterrestrials or something 369 00:14:14,389 --> 00:14:12,639 that's coming up through 370 00:14:16,710 --> 00:14:14,399 some type of portal or something you 371 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:16,720 know it's something we just don't know 372 00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:19,120 so you know i that's why i presented the 373 00:14:23,189 --> 00:14:21,760 way i did for people to think about what 374 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:23,199 you know and 375 00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,920 maybe start asking some questions and 376 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,040 you know 377 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:29,279 developing a dialogue to see what this 378 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:32,000 phenomena really is 379 00:14:36,949 --> 00:14:34,560 absolutely it's been reported all all 380 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:36,959 over the united states in missouri we 381 00:14:40,629 --> 00:14:39,680 get uh accounts in the ozarks it seems 382 00:14:43,509 --> 00:14:40,639 um 383 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:43,519 they pop up wherever there's uh caves 384 00:14:47,189 --> 00:14:45,519 and um 385 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,199 it's an interesting 386 00:14:51,189 --> 00:14:49,279 phenomenon 387 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,199 well you know it's been um you know 388 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:53,279 we've been canada and united states seem 389 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:55,120 to have the heavy concentration of these 390 00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:56,959 settings but uh 391 00:15:01,030 --> 00:14:59,600 you know we have had a few in europe and 392 00:15:02,949 --> 00:15:01,040 uh 393 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:02,959 i i think the best evidence that we 394 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:04,800 received so far was 395 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:07,440 from a videotape that was that was taken 396 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:09,120 in poland 397 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,120 and i've got some i've actually put some 398 00:15:16,629 --> 00:15:13,279 of those screenshots in the book 399 00:15:18,550 --> 00:15:16,639 so uh yeah they're you know 400 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:18,560 it's an interesting it's an interesting 401 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:24,629 at one point and i think we are going to 402 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:27,760 be doing a humanoid um round table in a 403 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:29,600 couple weeks or so 404 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:32,320 or whenever and uh yeah i think we can 405 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:34,639 uh get into that a little more deeply 406 00:15:40,550 --> 00:15:37,360 and talk about the book more but look 407 00:15:42,550 --> 00:15:40,560 you know i'm i'm open for all kinds of 408 00:15:43,749 --> 00:15:42,560 theories on this thing because it's just 409 00:15:47,350 --> 00:15:43,759 really 410 00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:47,360 probably one of the most weird things 411 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:49,759 that i've encountered as far as 412 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:51,920 you know you know cryptids or whatever 413 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,800 you want to call these things so 414 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:56,800 yeah it seems like uh there's several 415 00:16:00,230 --> 00:15:58,800 things going on several different kind 416 00:16:01,670 --> 00:16:00,240 of things yeah 417 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,680 well you know you're talking about the 418 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,199 paranormal you talk about cryptids 419 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:04,800 there's always seems to be a fine line 420 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:05,680 there 421 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:07,920 uh whereas a lot of stuff is connected 422 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:11,040 you know it seems like every case we get 423 00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,959 every big case just like with even 424 00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:14,800 chicago there seems to be something 425 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:17,680 connected there besides just these beans 426 00:16:22,470 --> 00:16:19,839 uh you know we've got ufo active we've 427 00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:22,480 got other humanoid activity 428 00:16:26,470 --> 00:16:24,160 yeah 429 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:26,480 usually when i heard about pale walkers 430 00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:29,040 like when i first heard about it and 431 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:30,639 the first thing that came in mind was 432 00:16:34,790 --> 00:16:33,040 you know not the rake or what they call 433 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:34,800 it on the internet 434 00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:37,519 but there's a phenomenon in uh 435 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:39,040 in the 436 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:40,959 northern part of california 437 00:16:45,829 --> 00:16:43,440 dates back to like native american 438 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,839 tribes but of these walkers that they 439 00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:47,839 see they look like walking trees 440 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:48,959 basically 441 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:51,360 the long-legged stiffed uh 442 00:16:55,269 --> 00:16:53,120 walkers they usually there's a video of 443 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:55,279 one that looks like it's a a tall one 444 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:56,959 and a like a young 445 00:17:01,910 --> 00:16:59,920 a young one but these these go back all 446 00:17:02,829 --> 00:17:01,920 the way to native american 447 00:17:08,949 --> 00:17:02,839 uh 448 00:17:11,110 --> 00:17:08,959 what the the nightcrawlers are have been 449 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:11,120 called you know the you know 450 00:17:15,110 --> 00:17:13,120 more modern times they they saw them in 451 00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:15,120 or around fresno area 452 00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,199 uh that's how i got that fresno night 453 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,280 walker nightcrawler or whatever the hell 454 00:17:24,309 --> 00:17:21,199 it was they called it 455 00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:24,319 and uh but yeah i i have had somebody 456 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,720 tell me that it does go back to some of 457 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,160 the indigenous 458 00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:30,559 people in that area northern north 459 00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:33,679 northern california so um and i date did 460 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:35,440 make mention of that in the book as well 461 00:17:40,470 --> 00:17:37,520 so 462 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:40,480 here knows what we're dealing with 463 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,440 um we got a question from d apocalypse 464 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:46,400 uh which cryptid do you think reveals 465 00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,960 themselves to us the most bigfoot dog 466 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:50,880 man ultra terrestrials 467 00:17:55,190 --> 00:17:53,120 you know that's hard to tell you know i 468 00:17:56,630 --> 00:17:55,200 i believe i actually believe bigfoot 469 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:56,640 dogman 470 00:18:00,870 --> 00:17:58,559 winged humanoids i think they're all 471 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:00,880 terrestrials be honest with you 472 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:02,960 um yeah you know the evidence that we've 473 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:06,000 been getting more and more of recently 474 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:06,960 uh 475 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:08,320 especially since 476 00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:10,320 we've been investigating out in chicago 477 00:18:15,669 --> 00:18:13,200 it seems like this this whole 478 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,679 cryptid thing for the most part though i 479 00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,520 do believe there's some indigenous 480 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:19,039 beings like 481 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,400 in bigfoot realm but um 482 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:24,720 you know the the there's fleeting 483 00:18:29,350 --> 00:18:26,640 sightings all around 484 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:29,360 uh they don't seem to have places where 485 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:31,600 they dwell at uh 486 00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,200 especially here in this part of the 487 00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:35,440 country in the upper midwest and in the 488 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:36,799 east 489 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,720 uh we just don't see a whole lot of 490 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:40,480 physical evidence it's like they just 491 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:43,520 disappear or how they're doing that 492 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:46,559 i mean what are your thoughts on that 493 00:18:51,110 --> 00:18:49,520 i think it's based on like geography i 494 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:51,120 mean 495 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:54,400 you have a lot of bigfoots like you know 496 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:56,000 bigfoot pretty much all over the united 497 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:57,440 states from 498 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,280 coast to coast but 499 00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,200 think about the dogmen you see a lot of 500 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:03,360 those like you know wisconsin has a lot 501 00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,679 pennsylvania has a lot of dogman 502 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,440 sightings 503 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:09,360 in the southwest you have a lot of 504 00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:12,160 sightings of like skin walkers 505 00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:14,320 you know those are 506 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:17,679 more and more prevalent out there um 507 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,480 ultra terrestrials i mean honestly 508 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,640 you you could pass one on the street 509 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:24,640 never know about it you know 510 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,440 um 511 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:27,840 same thing with uh how many accounts 512 00:19:32,710 --> 00:19:30,240 have we ever heard of uh like 513 00:19:35,029 --> 00:19:32,720 uh extraterrestrials like grays that are 514 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,039 able to morph themselves 515 00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:37,360 you know to look human or you know or 516 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:39,520 even what they call hybrids 517 00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:40,400 um 518 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,320 try to you know think about 519 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,880 how many people like uh 520 00:19:48,789 --> 00:19:46,559 in like different parts of the country 521 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:48,799 or different parts of the world 522 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:50,960 see different things i mean 523 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,679 um you know in japan you probably have a 524 00:19:57,110 --> 00:19:55,440 lot of like um 525 00:19:58,150 --> 00:19:57,120 oh there's a word for them but they're 526 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,160 demons 527 00:20:02,630 --> 00:19:59,840 uh 528 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:02,640 but um otaku's i believe is what 529 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,799 i might be wrong but it's uh 530 00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,039 different forms of demons they see you 531 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:08,799 know that they some of them have been 532 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:10,960 venerated for centuries 533 00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:12,000 um 534 00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,600 all sorts of different you know 535 00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,200 creatures in indonesia you have 536 00:20:25,190 --> 00:20:21,120 something called the ring pending that's 537 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:25,200 like their version of the bigfoot um 538 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,520 tibetan all the northern countries of 539 00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:29,600 you know the himalayas have 540 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,039 you know 541 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,960 sightings of the yeti you don't hear 542 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:34,640 about anything much coming out of there 543 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:37,280 except for like yeti sightings or uh 544 00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:40,640 even australia you have the yowie 545 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:43,120 so it just really depends where 546 00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,720 in the in the world you are you know 547 00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:49,120 i know growing up back home you know in 548 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,240 texas you saw a lot of uh you know we 549 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,480 didn't have so much bigfoots but you had 550 00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:55,679 all sorts of other things you know 551 00:21:00,470 --> 00:20:57,840 flying creatures in the sky 552 00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:00,480 um you had things like uh yorona you had 553 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,400 things like the 554 00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:04,080 the la chuzas 555 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,360 um 556 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:07,440 that were out there you know and a lot 557 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,760 of uh also like what we were discussing 558 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:11,760 earlier before the show you know a lot 559 00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:14,320 of like uh big cat sightings 560 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,120 you know 561 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:17,360 are seen out that way so 562 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,120 it just really depends to me honestly um 563 00:21:25,510 --> 00:21:23,039 on what shows up the most is depending 564 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,520 on where your geographic location is 565 00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:27,280 oh yeah you know 566 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,880 um 567 00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,880 and it doesn't seem to end it seems to 568 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,280 be something always pops up too 569 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:34,559 uh 570 00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,760 you know i i don't think um 571 00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:39,200 you know of course we get all kinds of 572 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:40,559 strange things that we just can't 573 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:42,480 explain but you know i i think as time 574 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:45,360 has gone on i'm getting more and more 575 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:46,960 convinced that 576 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,320 there there seems to be a 577 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,799 a starting point for most of this stuff 578 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,679 uh is it another a specific dimension or 579 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,840 two where they're coming from oh and by 580 00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,440 the way andy kate thanks for your 581 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,600 donation much appreciated 582 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:04,480 uh yeah i mean it's 583 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:07,440 what uh you know 584 00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:09,360 you know the fact that you know we got 585 00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:12,159 the this information from the unseen 586 00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:14,480 ones and the ultra-terrestrial which 587 00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:16,240 they define themselves as and they're 588 00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:17,679 telling us that 589 00:22:21,029 --> 00:22:20,159 a lot of the cryptids on our earth plane 590 00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:21,039 are 591 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,280 you know i i i'm starting to think more 592 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,080 and more that you know 593 00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:33,440 maybe this maybe this rift or whatever 594 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,360 that opens up there's a lot of stuff 595 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:37,440 that's going in and out 596 00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:40,080 and uh and why we're not getting the 597 00:22:44,310 --> 00:22:42,400 physical evidence that we really really 598 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:44,320 should be getting for something like 599 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:45,200 this 600 00:22:53,679 --> 00:22:58,310 so um let's see here 601 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,909 yep i uh 602 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,990 oh yeah james is saying james wasn't 603 00:23:08,149 --> 00:23:05,840 saying that uh 604 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:08,159 but the dog men are still coming around 605 00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,480 his house and i know 606 00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:12,320 you know we had james on before he told 607 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,919 him told us about the encounters he had 608 00:23:19,110 --> 00:23:18,320 so well you know i know he mentioned to 609 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,120 me 610 00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:22,240 before that there's still stuff going on 611 00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:24,559 uh the apocalypse thanks for your um 612 00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:26,240 thanks for your donation much 613 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,520 appreciated 614 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:29,760 now anastasia asked have you heard or 615 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:32,400 seen that translucent creature if so 616 00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,240 what do you think of this i guess you're 617 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,559 referring to the glimmer man 618 00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:41,029 i don't know what the hell that is i i 619 00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:42,640 believe 620 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,039 that it may very well 621 00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,760 be a cloaked being 622 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:49,679 there have been people who have told us 623 00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:51,520 who believe that they believe it's a 624 00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:53,760 cloak bigfoot 625 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:00,870 an image of kind of a half bigfoot half 626 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,440 glimmer man being 627 00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,600 out at um 628 00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:07,679 salt fork state park 629 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:10,080 sometime last year 630 00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,120 so was this one of these beings coming 631 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:15,200 through or 632 00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:19,760 evolving or what i don't know uh 633 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,760 you know bruce mcabee who lives out in 634 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:24,799 ohio and has property out there and 635 00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,240 he and who is a bigfoot investigator he 636 00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,480 uh he and his wife had an encounter with 637 00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:32,720 one of these things out there as well 638 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:36,240 so and that's what he believes it is 639 00:24:40,149 --> 00:24:37,760 so um 640 00:24:42,630 --> 00:24:40,159 maybe these glimmer the glimmer man is 641 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:42,640 some type of um 642 00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:45,120 is it like the predator or an alien i 643 00:24:49,029 --> 00:24:47,279 don't know you know 644 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,039 i'll say that around me i'll say that 645 00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:51,520 first of all but i have no real idea 646 00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,799 what it is 647 00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:54,640 i wish possible 648 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,799 is it possible like ultra terrestrials 649 00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:58,559 are mimicking 650 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:00,720 more flesh and blood creatures 651 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,440 well that that very well could be too 652 00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,799 you know i know out there where you're 653 00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:06,320 at your police you've had a lot of 654 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:09,279 activity out there and uh 655 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:10,159 i mean 656 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,000 what are we really dealing with it just 657 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,640 seems that 658 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,559 i don't know you know i wish i did know 659 00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:18,080 i wish i had better answers for this 660 00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:19,360 type of stuff 661 00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,000 but um you know like we do this 662 00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:24,000 yeah i mean there's one thing we can be 663 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:25,520 sure all things are getting weird and 664 00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,200 weird all the time 665 00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,440 and absolutely maybe we'll start getting 666 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:31,120 some answers i mean that's what we're 667 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,320 here to do so um 668 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,080 i don't know there have been a lot of 669 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,679 sightings i remember reading a report 670 00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:39,760 one time i believe it was out by you lon 671 00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:43,279 in fact by gettysburg um of the lady who 672 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,679 was watching uh what she thought were 673 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,960 aliens 674 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:47,919 and 675 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:52,320 problem was that the aliens weren't even 676 00:25:57,350 --> 00:25:54,400 noticing her it's like 677 00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:57,360 you know einstein's prove you know 678 00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,120 there's if you look at his theories he 679 00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:00,960 has shown that you know there are 680 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,679 parallel universes there can't you know 681 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,360 there are maybe there's 682 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:07,120 maybe there's times when 683 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:10,159 these fluidic universes sometimes touch 684 00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,039 and 685 00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:13,520 worth glimpsing into their their realm i 686 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:14,240 mean 687 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,919 this lady was stating that these things 688 00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:17,200 were 689 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,559 control panel of some kind 690 00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:22,320 and they were translucent but she could 691 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,360 see them 692 00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:25,360 and i believe they were like right 693 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,919 outside her window basically but these 694 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,960 things 695 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:30,880 didn't even notice her they didn't even 696 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:34,000 pay attention you know they were there 697 00:26:37,269 --> 00:26:34,960 um 698 00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:37,279 for a you know for a few minutes and 699 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,159 then they faded away um 700 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,320 how many you know times have people you 701 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:44,240 know said that they have seen 702 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,600 you know 703 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,520 different kinds of uh 704 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:49,919 creatures you know and 705 00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:52,000 that the creatures didn't notice them 706 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,000 how many times people said that they've 707 00:26:58,710 --> 00:26:56,640 been driving down the road and they um 708 00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,720 see a restaurant that they go into and 709 00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,080 it's a phenomenal service great food and 710 00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,640 next to nothing on price when they go by 711 00:27:08,950 --> 00:27:06,880 there again you know you know a day or 712 00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:08,960 two later that place is gone 713 00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:09,760 um 714 00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,480 you know it could easily be time slips 715 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:14,000 it could easily be 716 00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,799 um 717 00:27:17,590 --> 00:27:16,640 you know parallel universes touching 718 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,600 together 719 00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:19,840 um it could be any kind of you know 720 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,679 creature um 721 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:23,360 you know there's different creatures 722 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:26,480 from all sorts of you know different uh 723 00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,440 you know 724 00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,799 different cultures and everything that 725 00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,799 people talk about you know that come in 726 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,559 the guise of you know 727 00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,159 of being able to disguise themselves 728 00:27:36,950 --> 00:27:35,840 make themselves invisible 729 00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:36,960 um 730 00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:39,520 you know there's a lot that you know for 731 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:41,679 as fast as we say we are there's a lot 732 00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:43,840 we don't know about and 733 00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:46,080 we're constantly being surprised by what 734 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:46,840 we 735 00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:49,760 discover oh i agree with that 736 00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,679 i mean i'm i'm surprised by stuff all 737 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,440 the time i mean i'll get i'll get an 738 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:55,440 account come into me and 739 00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,039 i'm sitting here reading this thing and 740 00:28:02,149 --> 00:27:59,679 i'm thinking myself first of all 741 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,159 is anybody going to believe this or even 742 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,320 give it any consideration if i post it 743 00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,799 up on the blog 744 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,159 because sometimes you get stuff that's 745 00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:09,919 just really out there 746 00:28:17,350 --> 00:28:15,190 i i don't know i you know i've had a few 747 00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:17,360 encounters in my time 748 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:18,559 uh 749 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:20,720 i am an intuitive so i have seen a lot 750 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:22,720 of some weird things and you know you 751 00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:24,080 talk about this woman may have been 752 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:25,679 around gettysburg that wouldn't surprise 753 00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,720 me at all 754 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:28,320 i mean there's just something about out 755 00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:31,200 there that i think it is conducive to 756 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,279 weird stuff altogether 757 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,520 and uh you know you just get that 758 00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:37,360 feeling you go out there 759 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:39,840 that wouldn't surprise me what at all 760 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,360 because i've seen some really weird 761 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,840 stuff out there too 762 00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:44,640 so 763 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,630 i think the uh ancient indigenous people 764 00:28:55,350 --> 00:28:52,799 around the world they knew about this uh 765 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:55,360 a lot better than what we do now oh i 766 00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:56,960 think so 767 00:29:00,549 --> 00:28:58,559 and uh 768 00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:00,559 i think that's why they would set up 769 00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,000 next uh next to these holy places and 770 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:05,919 because they were 771 00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:09,200 watching things like this happen 772 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,679 these dimensional riffs 773 00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:13,200 yeah i mean 774 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:15,919 how many places have have we heard of 775 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,320 that you know happening with you know 776 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,480 vince lives right down to not too far 777 00:29:25,510 --> 00:29:22,880 away from a place in illinois where you 778 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,520 know they have mountains set up and 779 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,279 those mounds have shown that they're 780 00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,480 conjunctures of ley lines you know 781 00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:33,360 yeah cahokia yeah um 782 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,360 so many strange places you know not just 783 00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,200 the pyramids you know machu picchu was 784 00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:39,679 another one you know how many 785 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,840 places have we seen where ley lines 786 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,600 converge that we're seeing all sorts of 787 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:46,480 you know strange and weird phenomenon 788 00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:48,000 ufos 789 00:29:52,310 --> 00:29:50,159 uh spirit activity 790 00:29:55,110 --> 00:29:52,320 cryptids 791 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,120 uh bernadette asked do you think 792 00:30:02,470 --> 00:29:57,760 what do you think that's to happen when 793 00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:03,909 well i'll tell you that's that's a 794 00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:06,159 loaded question because i i think about 795 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:08,960 that all the time i um 796 00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,120 i think it's a it's a number of things i 797 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:14,080 i think for the most part 798 00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:14,880 what 799 00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:20,000 people are either just going through 800 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:23,520 without noticing it or they're being 801 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,760 pulled into something like that so 802 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:28,000 quickly that you know people people have 803 00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,760 reported somebody being beside them and 804 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,440 all of a sudden they're gone 805 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,919 you know um 806 00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:36,480 the fact that most of these are reported 807 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:38,960 in um areas 808 00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:42,880 like uh national forest and such 809 00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:44,159 i don't know 810 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,159 what are your thoughts on that guys oh 811 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:48,000 by the way i want to thank peace for 812 00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,669 well 813 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,440 um you guys don't mind i'll go first i 814 00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,200 mean um 815 00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,519 for missing 4-1-1 you know a lot of it 816 00:31:05,110 --> 00:31:01,679 happens like in national parks you know 817 00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,120 in the wilderness area i honestly think 818 00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,279 it's kind of a 819 00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:08,960 50 50 mix 820 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,000 um 821 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:11,679 there are things going on out there 822 00:31:15,350 --> 00:31:13,279 there are things out there in the in the 823 00:31:16,830 --> 00:31:15,360 wild that's happening 824 00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:16,840 you know 825 00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:19,360 um for the most part 826 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,880 um 827 00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:22,720 i also think part of it is people who 828 00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:24,399 just do not know how to be out in the 829 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:25,840 wild 830 00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:28,240 that's very possible you know you do not 831 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,840 go wandering around in the middle of the 832 00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:31,760 night in the forest you don't go you 833 00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:32,799 know 834 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,600 uh set up your tent next to trails that 835 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,880 you know are 836 00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:39,120 infested with bear 837 00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:42,080 um sometimes people just make dumb 838 00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:44,159 mistakes and they're just you know never 839 00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,720 heard or seen from again or 840 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:48,799 they fall into a ravine and you know 841 00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:51,200 some of these places don't see 842 00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,399 you know there are roads out there that 843 00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:54,720 probably people haven't driven past in 844 00:31:59,750 --> 00:31:56,399 years you know even though they're 845 00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:59,760 maintained roads but it's so remote ask 846 00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:01,919 anybody who's been you know who's worked 847 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:04,080 with a u.s forestry department you know 848 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:06,799 as a fire watcher you know they can go 849 00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:09,360 months without seeing somebody out there 850 00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,799 um 851 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,279 it could be that way it could also be 852 00:32:17,350 --> 00:32:14,640 people are 853 00:32:18,789 --> 00:32:17,360 inherently stupid i mean i hate to say 854 00:32:20,070 --> 00:32:18,799 it that way but 855 00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,080 um 856 00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:22,080 how many people go out there you know 857 00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,440 and they encounter a bigfoot and the 858 00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:25,360 first thing they do is you know start 859 00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:26,880 opening fire on it 860 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:29,200 you know these things have also been 861 00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,720 shown to be 862 00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:32,159 most of the time they leave you alone 863 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:34,240 but if you mess with them they've also 864 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,799 been shown to be very aggressive toward 865 00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:38,240 people who 866 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,000 you know harmed them in any way shape or 867 00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,000 form how many reports that 868 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,559 you read you know i read as a kid and or 869 00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:46,240 all of us ready you know where 870 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,440 um 871 00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:48,960 somebody tries to harm them and next 872 00:32:53,269 --> 00:32:50,960 thing you know there's you know 873 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,279 um a bunch of them out there throwing 874 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:54,880 rocks at them 875 00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,440 i read a report where a gentleman was uh 876 00:33:01,509 --> 00:32:59,039 something kept messing with a logging 877 00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:01,519 camp so he stayed out there 878 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:02,480 and 879 00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:05,200 when he opened fire um i guess you know 880 00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:06,720 t car would have to try to stop him 881 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:08,240 thinking it was vandals 882 00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:10,000 and they found him the next day just 883 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:11,120 basically 884 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:13,200 broken in half and 885 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:14,960 whatever it was that would come into 886 00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:16,720 this uh camp 887 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,159 was picking up you know full uh barrels 888 00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:23,039 of 55 gallon barrels of 889 00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:24,799 hydraulic food and just throwing them 890 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:26,000 yards 891 00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:27,120 you know 892 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,200 um 893 00:33:35,509 --> 00:33:33,440 how do we not know that somebody reaches 894 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,519 you know meets out for something 895 00:33:38,870 --> 00:33:36,880 um or 896 00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,880 they decide oh hey there's a little 897 00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,480 fairy ring right there let me jump into 898 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,799 it you know um 899 00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:43,760 you know 900 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,480 portals exist for a reason things exist 901 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:48,720 for a reason and sometimes 902 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:51,279 people just wander in you know not 903 00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,559 knowing what they're getting themselves 904 00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,559 into find themselves in a one-way ticket 905 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,679 somewhere 906 00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,519 and they're just added on to that 907 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,240 missing 4-1-1 908 00:34:03,750 --> 00:34:01,840 yeah somebody asked about the stair 909 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:03,760 steve rowley asked about the staircases 910 00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:05,679 out in the middle of the woods 911 00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:08,560 i yeah i've read about that many times i 912 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,159 mean i i don't know what the hell that's 913 00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:12,480 all about 914 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:15,200 yeah i i know though i know this the one 915 00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:16,240 um 916 00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,000 search and rescue guy who had talked 917 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,399 about that he did some threads over 918 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:22,159 reddit but 919 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,919 um 920 00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:25,599 he said he actually went to the top of 921 00:34:30,149 --> 00:34:28,639 one of those staircases one time and 922 00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:30,159 he didn't really see much of any he said 923 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,000 he felt weird he probably went up there 924 00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,560 and got i don't know i don't know just 925 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:36,720 felt something weird but maybe i don't 926 00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:38,720 know i but i've heard about that before 927 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:41,520 so that is strange and i think tommy 928 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:42,960 would agree with this you know you got a 929 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,960 lot of people out there that are hunting 930 00:34:48,869 --> 00:34:46,800 they shouldn't even be carrying a gun 931 00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,879 let alone down in the woods 932 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,639 yeah you know 933 00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:51,520 you know 934 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,720 uh 935 00:34:57,829 --> 00:34:55,440 like i i i remember the first dead deer 936 00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:57,839 season when you're here in maryland we 937 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,079 were on savage mountain 938 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:03,760 and uh out in green ridge and uh oh my 939 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,800 god 940 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,480 two guys got shot 941 00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,640 within a mile of me 942 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:10,560 and it was like there were people 943 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,599 everywhere so uh yeah 944 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,280 yeah you know that's one of the reasons 945 00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:17,760 why i'll do it anymore 946 00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,000 and like like man you always say and i i 947 00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:22,000 read an article 948 00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:24,880 oh it was a couple months ago there was 949 00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,160 uh 950 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,079 a rifle hunter in colorado that had been 951 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:30,640 missing for like four years 952 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:33,760 and a bow hunter just this year found 953 00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,520 found him because there are some places 954 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,200 that are just that remote you get back 955 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,520 in and nobody goes there yeah they get 956 00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,040 lost 957 00:35:47,030 --> 00:35:42,880 mother nature doesn't call from back up 958 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:47,040 until a long time later right 959 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,760 well i i tell you you know the 4-1-1 960 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,160 thing doesn't really surprise me for the 961 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,760 most part 962 00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:55,680 and after working with david for all 963 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,960 those years david eckhart and 964 00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,560 some of the stories he's told me about 965 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,359 people that just suddenly are killed die 966 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,440 or whatever and they dispose of them or 967 00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,640 what 968 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,880 well that doesn't surprise me i mean is 969 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,960 that what's going on well maybe i mean 970 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,240 i'm not saying that's what's always 971 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,839 going on but 972 00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:15,680 i think there's a lot of things out 973 00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:22,310 i don't know 974 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,839 anybody got anything else to say about 975 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:26,640 that 976 00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:28,400 anybody got any more questions just put 977 00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:29,200 it up 978 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:32,240 that the uh the missing 4-1-1 you know 979 00:36:38,069 --> 00:36:35,200 some of the weirder cases it has to be 980 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:38,079 portal or or aliens or something because 981 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:40,320 i mean when they just disappear within 982 00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:41,520 seconds of 983 00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:43,760 turning around and 984 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:45,520 i mean that just doesn't make any sense 985 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:47,040 there's no there's not a big foot 986 00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,760 grabbing them or anything like that it's 987 00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:51,040 like the 988 00:36:56,470 --> 00:36:54,800 earth swallows it swells a person up 989 00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:56,480 well i mean it is weird i mean i have 990 00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:58,400 talked to david pelage about that in the 991 00:37:02,550 --> 00:36:59,680 past 992 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,560 uh and you know i i will admit i got him 993 00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:04,240 pissed off at me at one point because i 994 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,240 was saying i was i was saying i thought 995 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,000 it was a bigfoot doing and he swore up 996 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,599 and down that wasn't the case but you 997 00:37:13,829 --> 00:37:11,119 know anyway 998 00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:13,839 we we calmed down and talked about it a 999 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:14,800 bit 1000 00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,160 but uh 1001 00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,400 you know as time has gone on uh there 1002 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:20,079 are just too many weird things that have 1003 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,040 happened 1004 00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,520 in a lot of different scenarios and you 1005 00:37:27,109 --> 00:37:25,280 know the fact that 1006 00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:27,119 portals are opening up and look i've 1007 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:28,640 seen a lot of crazy stuff on the 1008 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,760 internet 1009 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,920 and from what people have shown me and 1010 00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,589 i'll be honest with you not much 1011 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,760 surprises me anymore 1012 00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:39,520 uh you know i'm not saying i'm buying 1013 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,040 into everything but there's some really 1014 00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,640 weird stuff out there 1015 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,960 well i mean think about uh i just really 1016 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:46,240 finished reading a really good book 1017 00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,160 about appalachia 1018 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,480 and um some of the things that go on out 1019 00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,760 there and 1020 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:53,520 how some of the the author was saying as 1021 00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:55,040 kids they were taught never to go near 1022 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,520 dilapidated buildings because for that 1023 00:38:00,550 --> 00:37:59,359 reason you could very well easily 1024 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,560 disappear 1025 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:03,440 um she talks about how 1026 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,960 she um 1027 00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,560 they went they found a dilapidated 1028 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,480 building as kids they looked in and the 1029 00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:10,800 house was pristine you know right out of 1030 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:13,680 the pages of you know the 1950s 1031 00:38:16,950 --> 00:38:15,760 you know somebody gets in there they 1032 00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:16,960 they get the cure 1033 00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:19,680 you know they get that little curiosity 1034 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,480 um 1035 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,000 streak in them they go in there they're 1036 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:24,480 never seen from again i mean 1037 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:25,280 some 1038 00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:31,119 things out there that don't exactly uh 1039 00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:32,960 play by our rules 1040 00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:33,839 um 1041 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:35,599 one of the first things you learn in you 1042 00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,800 know in 1043 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,040 paganism or in witchcraft you know 1044 00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:41,280 that you know three rule four rule thing 1045 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:43,520 does not exactly apply to everything out 1046 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:44,400 there 1047 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,440 you go and you know step into a portal 1048 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:51,760 they're not gonna let you come back out 1049 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,960 um 1050 00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,200 i how many times were 1051 00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:56,800 people you know 1052 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,880 and don't get it you know curiosity 1053 00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:01,680 really does kill the cat you know um 1054 00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:03,040 you know or at least makes you go 1055 00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:08,870 well 1056 00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:11,760 you know i know tommy's raised around 1057 00:39:15,349 --> 00:39:13,920 the mountains for most of his life i 1058 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,359 believe and 1059 00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:17,440 you know i'm not unfamiliar with the 1060 00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:20,480 appalachians between here and down south 1061 00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:21,359 and 1062 00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:22,720 you know there's a lot of weird stuff 1063 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:25,599 goes on i um i've told the story before 1064 00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:28,720 i my family was raised part of my family 1065 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:31,119 was raised down in western north 1066 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,560 carolina 1067 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,480 in the rockies 1068 00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:36,880 not the rockies the smoky mountains uh 1069 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,800 up near 1070 00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,800 roane mountain 1071 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:43,440 and uh 1072 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:44,560 i i 1073 00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,800 people used to talk about the wild man 1074 00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,400 and all that stuff up there for years i 1075 00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:50,320 had an uncle who 1076 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:52,400 and i said he had a still i mean he had 1077 00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:54,160 one of he had a 1078 00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:58,079 very big still and uh he used to [\h__\h] a 1079 00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:59,359 moon about 1080 00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:01,359 the wild man up there tearing you still 1081 00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,680 up and he didn't like him being up there 1082 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:05,599 and 1083 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:07,760 i heard that story 1084 00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:09,920 growing up you know that kind of weird 1085 00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:14,319 stuff and uh and you know it happens and 1086 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:15,359 um 1087 00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:16,720 and it's something about roon mountain 1088 00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,319 because i've had a couple stories on the 1089 00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,160 tennessee side about that place with 1090 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:22,319 people saying bigfoot and 1091 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:26,720 and uh other types of uh what they call 1092 00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:31,119 hairy men or wild men and such so um 1093 00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:34,079 yeah the appalachians are 1094 00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,480 are pretty pretty bizarre but 1095 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,480 you know that's that's the way it is i 1096 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,400 mean you know i guess anywhere you go 1097 00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:41,920 you gotta run into a lot of this weird 1098 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,240 stuff 1099 00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,000 i've seen the same way think about how 1100 00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:48,400 old they are i mean 1101 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:50,480 millions of years ago the appalachian 1102 00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:53,520 mountains were aligned with like ireland 1103 00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,880 and scotland those are the same 1104 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,480 mountains from 1105 00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,800 millions and millions of years ago 1106 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:00,880 yeah 1107 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:02,720 what happened long before we were ever 1108 00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,880 recording stuff 1109 00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:08,000 well yeah really i mean you know if we 1110 00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:10,560 had even an inkling of what was there 1111 00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,760 then 1112 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,440 i mean as far as the falling it goes i 1113 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,599 mean yeah 1114 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:22,390 i don't know i i i i just know that 1115 00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,640 it's kind of bizarre you know when 1116 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,079 this whole thing 1117 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,480 as far as uh 1118 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:30,640 wait a minute has anyone claimed to have 1119 00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:32,240 gone through one of those portals and 1120 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:33,680 come back 1121 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:35,920 yeah i've heard that what look at david 1122 00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,319 david's a perfect example he's come back 1123 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:40,079 several times from that 1124 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:42,160 um 1125 00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,520 i i don't know 1126 00:41:48,069 --> 00:41:45,599 if the situation is different with him 1127 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,079 because that may have been um you know 1128 00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:51,119 that was to do with some type of 1129 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:54,079 non-terrestrial being extraterrestrials 1130 00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,280 uh 1131 00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:58,240 as far as other beings go and in fact if 1132 00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:01,200 that's the case i i i yeah i guess it 1133 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:02,560 has happened 1134 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:04,880 uh i have you know you you talk people 1135 00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,000 talk about time slips and um 1136 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,280 that could very well be the same thing 1137 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,680 you know at some point they've you know 1138 00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,520 they've seen into another dimension are 1139 00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:17,280 kind of crossed over real quickly and 1140 00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,520 come back 1141 00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,920 so yeah people told me that before so 1142 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:23,119 yeah i believe 1143 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:24,720 i believe people have gone through and 1144 00:42:29,109 --> 00:42:25,839 come back 1145 00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:31,829 yeah i mean you have look at the reports 1146 00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:33,599 of people who've encountered or been 1147 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,160 abducted by what they call reptilians 1148 00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:38,560 you know most of them come through uh 1149 00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,760 portals 1150 00:42:43,349 --> 00:42:41,680 you know they don't come in ships they 1151 00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,359 they pop in and next thing you know 1152 00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,800 they're there and they're grabbing you 1153 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:46,079 and you know 1154 00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:47,040 um 1155 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:49,040 i honestly think yeah how many people 1156 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,480 have been have said that they've 1157 00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,000 encountered uh 1158 00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:53,920 you know stepped into a portal and you 1159 00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,240 know the fae immediately kick them out 1160 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,599 um 1161 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:00,000 you know i've had those before too yeah 1162 00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:01,280 yeah i mean 1163 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,319 there's a lot of places that we don't 1164 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:06,560 understand a lot of things that people 1165 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,760 have you know may have slipped into and 1166 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,680 seen it you know how many 1167 00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:13,200 stories of uh 1168 00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:14,240 you know 1169 00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:19,359 are way too common in paranormal 1170 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,760 investigation 1171 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:23,760 yeah i got i get a lot of them i really 1172 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,480 do i get a lot of time slip stories and 1173 00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:27,599 counts 1174 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:32,630 you know i i've had people 1175 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,560 i mean the counts like where somebody 1176 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,480 will um 1177 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:38,480 and it's weird that people will 1178 00:43:42,790 --> 00:43:41,040 go outside pick up the newspaper 1179 00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:42,800 and they look in the driveway and the 1180 00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,440 car's gone 1181 00:43:49,109 --> 00:43:47,359 and then five minutes later it's back 1182 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,119 again stuff like that where just things 1183 00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,560 just disappear and you know 1184 00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,079 i've heard all kinds of weird stuff like 1185 00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,079 that and even inside of homes where 1186 00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,160 things disappear suddenly 1187 00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,920 um 1188 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,359 like a whole half of the house would 1189 00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,040 disappear or turn into something else 1190 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,119 and it will change back 1191 00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,880 uh 1192 00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,119 even like 1193 00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,280 people telling me that 1194 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:13,280 that you know it turns dark all of a 1195 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,160 sudden 1196 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:16,000 like it's from night to day and day and 1197 00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,880 night within within minutes 1198 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:20,880 i mean how do you explain that that's 1199 00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,280 just that just outright weird 1200 00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,440 yeah we've had stuff here 1201 00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:27,680 here in our house it just 1202 00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,880 gone for weeks and then oh there it is 1203 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:32,400 where did that come from 1204 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,440 yeah 1205 00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:35,520 right out right now that happens here 1206 00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,190 well knowing your house that wouldn't 1207 00:44:48,550 --> 00:44:45,829 yeah 1208 00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:48,560 it's it's been incredibly calm lately my 1209 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:51,280 goodness but well that's good it's it's 1210 00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,079 been 1211 00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,829 and i i know i know vincent's had some 1212 00:45:06,309 --> 00:45:00,319 issues at his place too 1213 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,550 uh so folks you got anything else put it 1214 00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,880 up there and uh we'll talk about if you 1215 00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:11,839 want to 1216 00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:19,190 psychic mediums create a ports which are 1217 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:25,990 i think to a point that that that's 1218 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,319 possible i have um 1219 00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:30,319 i have heard that in the past i don't 1220 00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,349 is it done unconsciously or is it 1221 00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:39,359 something they consciously do maybe you 1222 00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:41,520 can answer that for me 1223 00:45:45,670 --> 00:45:43,440 i um 1224 00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:45,680 i don't know that that's interesting 1225 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:49,599 any injured cold sightings oh good 1226 00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,359 uh not lately 1227 00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:53,040 you know 1228 00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,440 that that last thing that we had up in 1229 00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,160 new york was kind of bizarre where and 1230 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:00,240 i'll mention what happened it was up in 1231 00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,079 hartwick new york and a friend of mine 1232 00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,119 who actually was a client at one point 1233 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:09,040 has been doing some investigations for 1234 00:46:12,550 --> 00:46:11,200 me he lives up in queens new york but 1235 00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,560 anyway 1236 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,640 he had a girlfriend a friend of his who 1237 00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:16,079 lived up in hartwick 1238 00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,599 uh new york 1239 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:19,520 and she got on the horn with him saying 1240 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:22,000 she had seen a 1241 00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,240 a winged humanoid 1242 00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,839 outside 1243 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,400 and when it happened her 1244 00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:30,720 her phone rang 1245 00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,640 and the name that came up on the phone 1246 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,119 id and the caller idea was injured the 1247 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:36,800 cold 1248 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,680 and 1249 00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,160 when she answered the phone the person 1250 00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:42,560 on the other side of the phone said 1251 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:49,990 so how you figure that i don't know he 1252 00:46:53,270 --> 00:46:51,920 went up there to look to investigate it 1253 00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:53,280 he said there's a lot of weird stuff 1254 00:46:57,750 --> 00:46:54,880 going on in the house 1255 00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,760 but uh yeah i mean you know you know i 1256 00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,440 i've talked to 1257 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,599 raymond keller about this injured cold 1258 00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:04,079 when that that happened again 1259 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,960 and 1260 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:06,800 you know his thoughts are that he 1261 00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:10,480 believes that this injured cold being 1262 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,800 who he believes is extraterrestrial may 1263 00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:15,119 still be around may still be involved 1264 00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,680 with government and such and 1265 00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:18,640 i don't know 1266 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:19,680 you know 1267 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,880 one he's one of the 1268 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:26,720 best ufologists that i know he knows 1269 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,160 everything i mean the history of 1270 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,720 following all kinds of stuff though 1271 00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:33,040 he he's the guy i went to right away as 1272 00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,040 soon as i heard that and he he believed 1273 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:37,119 it happened and uh 1274 00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,480 so 1275 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,559 but how many of those have really just 1276 00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,160 if you read the report how many of those 1277 00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:43,359 really 1278 00:47:49,589 --> 00:47:46,400 mirror what a men in black report is 1279 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,599 well very closely yeah 1280 00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:52,079 yeah i mean and very closely it sounds 1281 00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,800 just like a men in black encounter where 1282 00:47:58,549 --> 00:47:57,040 somebody has seen something in within 1283 00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,559 minutes or 1284 00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:00,319 before they even get a chance to report 1285 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:02,960 it these guys show up and say to be 1286 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,200 quiet about it well i don't think it has 1287 00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,960 anything to do with anything government 1288 00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:08,079 but i think it's definitely 1289 00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,520 extraterrestrial 1290 00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:12,319 or ultra-terrestrial or whatever 1291 00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:13,119 uh 1292 00:48:16,549 --> 00:48:14,000 yeah 1293 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,559 and james says about valiant thor same 1294 00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:18,480 thing now that story's a little 1295 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,040 different this guy was supposedly 1296 00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,119 working with the uh 1297 00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,680 with the pentagon at some point uh 1298 00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,079 supposedly from venus 1299 00:48:31,270 --> 00:48:30,000 and that's what he said he was from and 1300 00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,280 um 1301 00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,839 but he was a flesh and blood being and 1302 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,079 you know he was here for a while then he 1303 00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:37,760 was gone 1304 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,069 who knows what all this is all about you 1305 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,000 know that valiant thor thing fascinates 1306 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:46,559 me anyway and i think raymond's gonna do 1307 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,280 a report on that at some point 1308 00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:51,520 i know he's writing a book about dr 1309 00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,599 frank strange's so i think he may go 1310 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:55,599 into detail about the valiant thor thing 1311 00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:02,950 so 1312 00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:08,309 do you guys have anything you want to 1313 00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:12,309 gentlemen 1314 00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,599 um 1315 00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:15,119 i was just thinking about something we 1316 00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:17,119 were talking about earlier about you 1317 00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:18,000 know 1318 00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,000 and it kind of gets me a little bit um 1319 00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,559 brings me back to like the moss man you 1320 00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,720 know sightings that we're investigating 1321 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:32,000 um 1322 00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:33,440 you know chicago is the third largest 1323 00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:34,960 city in the nation 1324 00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:36,319 and 1325 00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,640 i believe it's also the third populist 1326 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:40,079 city in the nation 1327 00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:43,200 and people just don't realize how 1328 00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:46,160 many people are here i could draw a 1329 00:49:49,349 --> 00:49:48,160 circle five miles wide and be in the 1330 00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,359 millions 1331 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,720 um 1332 00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:53,040 and yet we're seeing things here 1333 00:49:59,990 --> 00:49:57,280 that are just you know ufos usos 1334 00:50:01,109 --> 00:50:00,000 so many uh these wing humanoid sightings 1335 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:01,119 um 1336 00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:02,720 you know 1337 00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:05,440 things from the paranormal of all sorts 1338 00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,359 we've have you know alien sightings we 1339 00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:09,760 have you know 1340 00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:12,319 cryptid sightings of all sorts you know 1341 00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:15,599 this whole area is just ripe and how 1342 00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,119 many 1343 00:50:22,549 --> 00:50:19,520 populist cities are are like that i mean 1344 00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,559 think of like uh detroit detroit has 1345 00:50:25,910 --> 00:50:24,800 there's so many reports of that little 1346 00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,920 um uh 1347 00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:27,599 little red 1348 00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,520 yeah it's those to scare the hell out of 1349 00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,960 people in the barn 1350 00:50:33,750 --> 00:50:32,160 um 1351 00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:33,760 yeah i mean 1352 00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,680 think of how many um 1353 00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:36,960 things happen 1354 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,440 and a lot of it i think it's also you 1355 00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:40,880 know it ties in with the question with 1356 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,720 about the psychic mediums 1357 00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:44,640 a lot of it to me seems like it's 1358 00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,160 summoned i mean 1359 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,920 how many people 1360 00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:49,520 do you think that 1361 00:50:54,150 --> 00:50:51,680 you know we're probably involved with 1362 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:54,160 deciding the rash that we had with uh 1363 00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:55,280 the 1364 00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,319 humanoids 1365 00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:59,520 you know 1366 00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:02,160 i quite honestly think that that was you 1367 00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,960 know 1368 00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,559 had an occult 1369 00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:07,200 tie-in to it it very well could have i 1370 00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:09,599 mean and you you know you and i talked 1371 00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,359 about that from the very beginning was 1372 00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:13,599 there something to do with the culture 1373 00:51:19,510 --> 00:51:16,960 or with the you know with you know what 1374 00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:19,520 people believed the belief system 1375 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:23,119 in in the hispanic area um 1376 00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,160 we had 1377 00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:26,640 about 10 all together in in little 1378 00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,640 village 10 sightings 1379 00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,880 and who knows who else didn't even 1380 00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:32,480 mention it so 1381 00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,800 yeah and i also think a part of it is 1382 00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:36,880 because you know lately in the last like 1383 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:39,599 five six years you know 1384 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:41,839 paganism occult you know wicca has 1385 00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:45,280 really taken off in popularity and 1386 00:51:49,430 --> 00:51:47,920 part of it is i mean 1387 00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,440 i hate to say it but people who don't 1388 00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,040 know what the hell they're doing you 1389 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,599 know that is so true man well they are 1390 00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:56,400 just very true they're not disciplined 1391 00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:58,480 or they're not following what you know 1392 00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:00,160 is taught most of these people are 1393 00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:01,280 probably doing it because they're 1394 00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,319 reading a book off of amazon somewhere 1395 00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,559 and not knowing i mean 1396 00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:09,200 how i belong to a few pagan groups on 1397 00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:11,200 line and we get people to be called we 1398 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:12,240 have a name for them they're called 1399 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,079 fluffers um 1400 00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,920 and the reason is how many people think 1401 00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:17,680 oh how can i attract the feign to my 1402 00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:19,359 house like yeah okay you got a death 1403 00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:20,960 wish don't you so 1404 00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:22,720 like you don't like nice things in your 1405 00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,880 house because your life is about a 1406 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:26,079 living hell 1407 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:28,960 if you do this um how many people do i 1408 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:31,680 see on on social media like tick tock 1409 00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,760 you know oh how to summon fairies you 1410 00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:35,520 know leave a bowl of this and this at 1411 00:52:40,069 --> 00:52:37,760 your house you know yeah like 1412 00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:40,079 and attract everything that's you don't 1413 00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:42,400 know what you're talking about you know 1414 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:45,040 um people using ouija boards i honestly 1415 00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,720 think that's probably one reason how it 1416 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:48,559 ended up somebody used 1417 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,760 some kind of 1418 00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:51,839 magic and summoned something 1419 00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:54,000 and didn't know how to put it back where 1420 00:52:57,430 --> 00:52:55,599 it belongs and 1421 00:52:59,109 --> 00:52:57,440 next thing we know we have all these 1422 00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,119 reports coming up because 1423 00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,160 it was concentrated in a very small area 1424 00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:04,000 a little village is 1425 00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:05,680 for people don't know it's a very 1426 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:08,480 hispanic with a very predominant 1427 00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,960 hispanic area in uh chicago but it's not 1428 00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,559 that big it's not the biggest 1429 00:53:18,710 --> 00:53:17,280 neighborhood in chicago and 1430 00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,720 within 1431 00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,079 i think the whole little village area is 1432 00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:22,240 maybe three miles six eight three miles 1433 00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:23,359 square 1434 00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:24,319 and 1435 00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:28,000 some of these sightings were just 1436 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,520 different from all these some these 1437 00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:32,160 things were aggressive 1438 00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:33,280 uh 1439 00:53:36,790 --> 00:53:34,800 and how many times have we been told by 1440 00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:36,800 the mpt ones to be 1441 00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:38,960 called onto this plane is painful to 1442 00:53:45,109 --> 00:53:42,160 them and that's quickest way to get them 1443 00:53:45,990 --> 00:53:45,119 to be aggressive toward you is because 1444 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:46,000 um 1445 00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:47,359 you're putting something that doesn't 1446 00:53:50,870 --> 00:53:49,440 want to be here here and you're forcing 1447 00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,880 it to stay here 1448 00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:52,640 you know whether you're doing it you 1449 00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:53,760 know 1450 00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,359 uh intentionally or you're doing it 1451 00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:56,960 because of your own incompetence doesn't 1452 00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:58,800 know how to you know 1453 00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:01,760 uh reverse it or send it home or dismiss 1454 00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,480 it 1455 00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,319 you know eventually these kinds of 1456 00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:07,280 things lead to these sightings and 1457 00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:09,200 god for the for the longest time we had 1458 00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:11,599 so many signings pouring in just out of 1459 00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,950 um 1460 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:20,240 james 1461 00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:25,200 planet what we think about planet x 1462 00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:27,839 nibiru 1463 00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:29,440 you know i i'll be honest with you i 1464 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:32,240 don't necessarily buy into the 1465 00:54:37,750 --> 00:54:33,280 uh 1466 00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:37,760 theories on 1467 00:54:45,910 --> 00:54:42,240 the uh nibiru or the planet x i do you 1468 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:47,430 i'll be honest i don't even know what 1469 00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,090 that is 1470 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,319 [Laughter] 1471 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,480 i've never read into that so i no 1472 00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,559 opinions he wrote a book he wrote a book 1473 00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,359 called the 12th planet years ago 1474 00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:58,640 and 1475 00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,720 he he had a lot of different theories 1476 00:55:05,109 --> 00:55:02,559 about a lot of different things i don't 1477 00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:05,119 necessarily buy into all of that 1478 00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:08,319 uh a gentleman who 1479 00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,799 was a friend of mine lloyd pie who was 1480 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:12,079 the guy 1481 00:55:18,309 --> 00:55:16,240 endorsing the uh starchild skull and 1482 00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:18,319 and he was also a cryptozoologist and an 1483 00:55:22,069 --> 00:55:19,520 author but 1484 00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,079 he kind of prescribed to a lot of what 1485 00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:24,400 sichuan rita wrote about 1486 00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,520 but um i don't know i i i it kind of 1487 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,599 seems a little farfetched to me but who 1488 00:55:33,589 --> 00:55:31,200 knows i mean i've 1489 00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:33,599 been a lot of things i i haven't really 1490 00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,240 thought much of or agreed with that 1491 00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:38,640 you know i've kind of been 1492 00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:41,839 proven wrong later on so i don't know do 1493 00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,799 you 1494 00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,079 know 1495 00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,799 manuel do you have any thoughts on that 1496 00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,960 i mean i don't really 1497 00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:51,119 you know subscribe to it i mean i'm i'm 1498 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,799 looking at it from like a scientific 1499 00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,160 point of view if there was a whole 1500 00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,599 planet out there that we didn't know 1501 00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:56,720 about 1502 00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:59,520 um how many times will you see the have 1503 00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:01,200 you seen the and if you're on any 1504 00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:03,040 paranormal group you see it you know 1505 00:56:07,589 --> 00:56:05,359 someone posting a photo of like what's 1506 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,599 obviously a reflection of the sun and 1507 00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,000 saying this is planet x okay if it was 1508 00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,079 that close we'd be in a lot of in a 1509 00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:13,680 world of hurt right now 1510 00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:14,640 uh 1511 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,680 i just don't really buy it so unless i 1512 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,119 know there are things out there that are 1513 00:56:22,549 --> 00:56:20,960 real there are rogue planets that are 1514 00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:22,559 wandering the universe 1515 00:56:26,870 --> 00:56:25,359 you know that's been proven but 1516 00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,880 to say that there's this planet that 1517 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,720 just mysteriously shows up and we 1518 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:30,480 haven't never been able to find out what 1519 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:31,920 it is and 1520 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:34,400 all the things that go with it i just 1521 00:56:37,589 --> 00:56:35,490 don't prescribe to it 1522 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:37,599 [Music] 1523 00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,119 yeah there are a lot of different 1524 00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,680 theories in ufology that 1525 00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:43,839 i don't know i i it's hard for me to 1526 00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,559 understand even the grass but but that 1527 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,160 was definitely one of them but i don't 1528 00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:50,400 even know if i you consider 1529 00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:53,280 sichuan even a ufologist he was kind of 1530 00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:56,079 a theorist i know he was a historian 1531 00:57:02,789 --> 00:56:57,440 um 1532 00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:02,799 right 1533 00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:05,200 bloodline 1534 00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,720 i you know i'll be honest with you i 1535 00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:08,160 kind of take a lot of that with a grain 1536 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:09,359 of salt 1537 00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:10,720 um 1538 00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:13,520 you know if if i if i would see more 1539 00:57:16,850 --> 00:57:14,960 evidence 1540 00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:16,860 of the connection i 1541 00:57:21,430 --> 00:57:19,200 [Music] 1542 00:57:23,030 --> 00:57:21,440 maybe consider it and now james's 1543 00:57:24,829 --> 00:57:23,040 following us did you see the object that 1544 00:57:28,150 --> 00:57:24,839 apparently skipped off the 1545 00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,160 sun i know i didn't i don't know what 1546 00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:30,640 that was about but uh 1547 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:32,960 uh did you see that manuel you're into 1548 00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:35,040 the ufology and stuff 1549 00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:36,319 um 1550 00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,640 honestly when i saw it i 1551 00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,720 can't say what it was i mean right it 1552 00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:42,799 could be any number of things i mean 1553 00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:45,680 comets and meteors go routinely around 1554 00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,799 the sun 1555 00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:49,040 some of them we know 1556 00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:50,079 um 1557 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,839 some of them don't you know make it some 1558 00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:53,680 of them do um 1559 00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,000 but um as far as something that just 1560 00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,880 skipped off the sun um no i don't see 1561 00:58:01,510 --> 00:57:59,920 that 1562 00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,520 the way they showed it on the video it 1563 00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:03,440 got too close it would be a death 1564 00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,200 sentence um 1565 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,359 you know people don't realize just how 1566 00:58:12,150 --> 00:58:10,319 immense the gravity of a sun is even our 1567 00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:12,160 sun and our sun is not even close to 1568 00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:13,839 being the biggest out there it's 1569 00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:16,480 actually one of the tiniest no that's a 1570 00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:18,160 what do you i mean 1571 00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:20,160 it's defined i don't even know what it's 1572 00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,799 defined at what level it's at but 1573 00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,240 um 1574 00:58:27,270 --> 00:58:26,160 is it a white dwarf or is that what they 1575 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,280 call that 1576 00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,520 ah no it's not a white dwarf a white 1577 00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,079 dwarf is a i believe a star that has 1578 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,720 died and has collapsed to the point 1579 00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:36,400 where it's now 1580 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:39,440 um just right above a pulsar but it's a 1581 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:43,359 uh it's a dead star ours is a uh 1582 00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:45,280 is an active sun but i mean there are 1583 00:58:49,990 --> 00:58:47,440 sons out there that are i know there's 1584 00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,000 one that they discovered that i saw that 1585 00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:52,799 i mean like ten thousand times the size 1586 00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,160 of our sun 1587 00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:56,160 you know red giants are routinely you 1588 00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:56,880 know 1589 00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,400 thousands of times the size of our sun 1590 00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,400 well i think we got what five five 1591 00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:04,559 billion years left of this and so you 1592 00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:06,799 know none of us gonna be around anyway 1593 00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:08,799 right so um 1594 00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:11,200 i guess whoever or whatever is around at 1595 00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:15,040 that point they may find out we'll see 1596 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,400 okay well we're gonna go ahead and wrap 1597 00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,559 this up tonight and guys thanks for 1598 00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:20,960 coming on i i really appreciate it i 1599 00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,440 know a short notice but uh 1600 00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,839 you know we are this is one thing we're 1601 00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:28,240 going to be doing more and more on this 1602 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:30,839 channel is is offering 1603 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,640 um 1604 00:59:36,390 --> 00:59:34,960 roundtable discussions and they're going 1605 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:36,400 to be on topic 1606 00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:39,280 more or less for the most part and when 1607 00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:41,440 we do that it will be announced where 1608 00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:44,079 the subjects are going to be and uh 1609 00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:46,880 we'll be taking questions and uh giving 1610 00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:49,920 answers to the people in the chat 1611 00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:52,319 so hopefully this will be up a popular 1612 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,920 thing we're going to try to maybe do at 1613 00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:56,160 least one a month maybe two 1614 01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:59,760 so uh we're already lining them up so uh 1615 01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,599 but we do have guests and stuff coming 1616 01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,799 as well 1617 01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,960 so um yeah but we're gonna try we're 1618 01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,480 just trying to 1619 01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:08,079 change things a bit 1620 01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:10,720 so again thanks for coming on and uh i 1621 01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:12,559 will talk to you all soon 1622 01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:18,710 now if you've had an unexplained 1623 01:00:22,230 --> 01:00:20,319 encounter or setting feel free to 1624 01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:22,240 contact me through the fans and monsters 1625 01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,599 blog site 1626 01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,880 i once again thank uh emmanuel navarette 1627 01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,880 tommy carroll and vincent richardsons 1628 01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,440 for joining me this evening and thanks 1629 01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:33,119 each and all you for watching and 1630 01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,960 chatting and if you made a super chat 1631 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,240 donation 1632 01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,559 it's truly appreciated your support is 1633 01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:41,280 what makes all this possible and uh 1634 01:00:44,630 --> 01:00:43,520 please like subscribe and share now next 1635 01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:44,640 week 1636 01:00:50,230 --> 01:00:47,920 we'll have uh travis watson back on 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